Frank Armstrong Ideal Index Portfolio vs Roger Gibson Talmud Portfolio Portfolio Comparison

Simulation Settings
Period: January 1970 - June 2025 (~56 years)
Consolidated Returns as of 30 June 2025
Initial Amount: 1$
Rebalancing: at every Jan 1st
Currency: USD
Inflation: US
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30 Years
(1995/07 - 2025/06)
All Data
(1970/01 - 2025/06)
Inflation Adjusted:
Frank Armstrong Ideal Index Portfolio
1.00$
Invested Capital
July 1995
7.58$
Final Capital
June 2025
6.98%
Yearly Return
10.74%
Std Deviation
-40.11%
Max Drawdown
40months
Recovery Period
1.00$
Invested Capital
July 1995
3.60$
Final Capital
June 2025
4.36%
Yearly Return
10.74%
Std Deviation
-41.10%
Max Drawdown
65months
Recovery Period
1.00$
Invested Capital
January 1970
132.57$
Final Capital
June 2025
9.20%
Yearly Return
10.82%
Std Deviation
-40.11%
Max Drawdown
40months
Recovery Period
1.00$
Invested Capital
January 1970
15.59$
Final Capital
June 2025
5.07%
Yearly Return
10.82%
Std Deviation
-41.10%
Max Drawdown
65months
Recovery Period
Roger Gibson Talmud Portfolio
1.00$
Invested Capital
July 1995
11.33$
Final Capital
June 2025
8.43%
Yearly Return
10.93%
Std Deviation
-40.17%
Max Drawdown
41months
Recovery Period
1.00$
Invested Capital
July 1995
5.38$
Final Capital
June 2025
5.77%
Yearly Return
10.93%
Std Deviation
-42.21%
Max Drawdown
49months
Recovery Period
1.00$
Invested Capital
January 1970
165.36$
Final Capital
June 2025
9.64%
Yearly Return
10.58%
Std Deviation
-40.17%
Max Drawdown
41months
Recovery Period
1.00$
Invested Capital
January 1970
19.44$
Final Capital
June 2025
5.49%
Yearly Return
10.58%
Std Deviation
-42.21%
Max Drawdown
49months
Recovery Period

As of June 2025, in the previous 30 Years, the Frank Armstrong Ideal Index Portfolio obtained a 6.98% compound annual return, with a 10.74% standard deviation. It suffered a maximum drawdown of -40.11% that required 40 months to be recovered.

As of June 2025, in the previous 30 Years, the Roger Gibson Talmud Portfolio obtained a 8.43% compound annual return, with a 10.93% standard deviation. It suffered a maximum drawdown of -40.17% that required 41 months to be recovered.

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Asset Allocations and ETFs

The compared portfolios have the following asset allocations.

Frank Armstrong Ideal Index Portfolio
Weight
(%)		 Ticker Name
31.00
VEU
Vanguard FTSE All-World ex-US
9.25
IJS
iShares S&P Small-Cap 600 Value
9.25
VTV
Vanguard Value
8.00
VNQ
Vanguard Real Estate
6.25
IJT
iShares S&P Small-Cap 600 Growth
6.25
VV
Vanguard Large-Cap
30.00
SHY
iShares 1-3 Year Treasury Bond
Roger Gibson Talmud Portfolio
Weight
(%)		 Ticker Name
33.34
VTI
Vanguard Total Stock Market
33.33
VNQ
Vanguard Real Estate
33.33
BND
Vanguard Total Bond Market
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Portfolio Returns as of Jun 30, 2025

Returns are calculated in USD, assuming:
  • no fees or capital gain taxes.
  • rebalancing: at every Jan 1st.
  • dividend reinvestment, when applicable.
Return Comparison
Capital Growth
30 Years
(1995/07 - 2025/06)
All Data
(1970/01 - 2025/06)
Inflation Adjusted:
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Initial Amount $ Final Amount $ Total Return (%) Annualized (%)
Frank Armstrong Ideal Index
Frank Armstrong 		1 $ 7.58 $ 657.59% 6.98%
Roger Gibson Talmud Portfolio
Roger Gibson 		1 $ 11.33 $ 1 032.50% 8.43%
Jul 1995 Jun 2025

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Initial Amount $ Final Amount $ Total Return (%) Annualized (%)
Frank Armstrong Ideal Index
Frank Armstrong 		1 $ 3.60 $ 260.06% 4.36%
Roger Gibson Talmud Portfolio
Roger Gibson 		1 $ 5.38 $ 438.24% 5.77%
Jul 1995 Jun 2025

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Initial Amount $ Final Amount $ Total Return (%) Annualized (%)
Frank Armstrong Ideal Index
Frank Armstrong 		1 $ 132.57 $ 13 157.06% 9.20%
Roger Gibson Talmud Portfolio
Roger Gibson 		1 $ 165.36 $ 16 436.16% 9.64%
Jan 1970 Jun 2025

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Initial Amount $ Final Amount $ Total Return (%) Annualized (%)
Frank Armstrong Ideal Index
Frank Armstrong 		1 $ 15.59 $ 1 458.62% 5.07%
Roger Gibson Talmud Portfolio
Roger Gibson 		1 $ 19.44 $ 1 844.14% 5.49%
Jan 1970 Jun 2025

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Return (%) as of Jun 30, 2025
YTD
(6M) 		1M 6M 1Y 5Y 10Y 30Y MAX
(~56Y)
http://www.lazyportfolioetf.com/wp-content/themes/dynamico-child/img/author/avatar_frank_armstrong.webp Ideal Index
Frank Armstrong 		6.78 2.74 6.78 11.19 8.51 6.19 6.98 9.20
http://www.lazyportfolioetf.com/wp-content/themes/dynamico-child/img/author/avatar_roger_gibson.webp Talmud Portfolio
Roger Gibson 		3.87 2.44 3.87 10.65 7.42 7.10 8.43 9.64
Returns over 1 year are annualized.
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Portfolio Metrics as of Jun 30, 2025

The following metrics, updated as of 30 June 2025, provide an overview of performance and risk, with the best value in each row highlighted within the table.

METRIC COMPARISON
Period: 1 July 2024 - 30 June 2025 (1 year)
Period: 1 July 2020 - 30 June 2025 (5 years)
Period: 1 July 2015 - 30 June 2025 (10 years)
Period: 1 July 1995 - 30 June 2025 (30 years)
Period: 1 January 1970 - 30 June 2025 (~56 years)
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5 Years
10 Years
30 Years
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Ideal Index Talmud Portfolio
Author Frank Armstrong Roger Gibson
ASSET ALLOCATION
Stocks 70% 66.67%
Fixed Income 30% 33.33%
Commodities 0% 0%
PERFORMANCES
Annualized Return (%) 11.19 10.65
Infl. Adjusted (%) 8.55 8.02
DRAWDOWN
Deepest Drawdown Depth (%) -3.51 -5.09
Start to Recovery (months) 6 7*
Longest Drawdown Depth (%) -3.51 -5.09
Start to Recovery (months) 6 7*
Longest Negative Period (months) 8 8
Drawdowns / Negative periods marked with * are in progress
RISK INDICATORS
Standard Deviation (%) 7.84 9.21
Sharpe Ratio 0.84 0.65
Sortino Ratio 1.06 0.82
Ulcer Index 1.61 2.59
Ratio: Return / Standard Deviation 1.43 1.16
Ratio: Return / Deepest Drawdown 3.19 2.09
Metrics calculated over the period 1 July 2024 - 30 June 2025
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Ideal Index Talmud Portfolio
Author Frank Armstrong Roger Gibson
ASSET ALLOCATION
Stocks 70% 66.67%
Fixed Income 30% 33.33%
Commodities 0% 0%
PERFORMANCES
Annualized Return (%) 8.51 7.42
Infl. Adjusted (%) 3.81 2.77
DRAWDOWN
Deepest Drawdown Depth (%) -18.25 -22.88
Start to Recovery (months) 27 32
Longest Drawdown Depth (%) -18.25 -22.88
Start to Recovery (months) 27 32
Longest Negative Period (months) 33 35
RISK INDICATORS
Standard Deviation (%) 11.09 12.95
Sharpe Ratio 0.53 0.37
Sortino Ratio 0.73 0.50
Ulcer Index 6.00 9.90
Ratio: Return / Standard Deviation 0.77 0.57
Ratio: Return / Deepest Drawdown 0.47 0.32
Metrics calculated over the period 1 July 2020 - 30 June 2025
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Ideal Index Talmud Portfolio
Author Frank Armstrong Roger Gibson
ASSET ALLOCATION
Stocks 70% 66.67%
Fixed Income 30% 33.33%
Commodities 0% 0%
PERFORMANCES
Annualized Return (%) 6.19 7.10
Infl. Adjusted (%) 3.06 3.94
DRAWDOWN
Deepest Drawdown Depth (%) -18.25 -22.88
Start to Recovery (months) 27 32
Longest Drawdown Depth (%) -18.25 -22.88
Start to Recovery (months) 27 32
Longest Negative Period (months) 35 35
RISK INDICATORS
Standard Deviation (%) 10.63 11.58
Sharpe Ratio 0.41 0.46
Sortino Ratio 0.55 0.61
Ulcer Index 5.28 7.39
Ratio: Return / Standard Deviation 0.58 0.61
Ratio: Return / Deepest Drawdown 0.34 0.31
Metrics calculated over the period 1 July 2015 - 30 June 2025
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Ideal Index Talmud Portfolio
Author Frank Armstrong Roger Gibson
ASSET ALLOCATION
Stocks 70% 66.67%
Fixed Income 30% 33.33%
Commodities 0% 0%
PERFORMANCES
Annualized Return (%) 6.98 8.43
Infl. Adjusted (%) 4.36 5.77
DRAWDOWN
Deepest Drawdown Depth (%) -40.11 -40.17
Start to Recovery (months) 40 41
Longest Drawdown Depth (%) -40.11 -40.17
Start to Recovery (months) 40 41
Longest Negative Period (months) 62 65
RISK INDICATORS
Standard Deviation (%) 10.74 10.93
Sharpe Ratio 0.44 0.56
Sortino Ratio 0.57 0.73
Ulcer Index 7.57 7.45
Ratio: Return / Standard Deviation 0.65 0.77
Ratio: Return / Deepest Drawdown 0.17 0.21
Metrics calculated over the period 1 July 1995 - 30 June 2025
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Ideal Index Talmud Portfolio
Author Frank Armstrong Roger Gibson
ASSET ALLOCATION
Stocks 70% 66.67%
Fixed Income 30% 33.33%
Commodities 0% 0%
PERFORMANCES
Annualized Return (%) 9.20 9.64
Infl. Adjusted (%) 5.07 5.49
DRAWDOWN
Deepest Drawdown Depth (%) -40.11 -40.17
Start to Recovery (months) 40 41
Longest Drawdown Depth (%) -40.11 -40.17
Start to Recovery (months) 40 41
Longest Negative Period (months) 62 65
RISK INDICATORS
Standard Deviation (%) 10.82 10.58
Sharpe Ratio 0.44 0.49
Sortino Ratio 0.59 0.65
Ulcer Index 6.64 6.51
Ratio: Return / Standard Deviation 0.85 0.91
Ratio: Return / Deepest Drawdown 0.23 0.24
Metrics calculated over the period 1 January 1970 - 30 June 2025
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Drawdowns

A drawdown refers to the decline in value from a relative peak value to a relative trough. A maximum drawdown is the maximum observed loss from a peak to a trough of a portfolio before a new peak is attained.

DRAWDOWN COMPARISON
Period: 1 July 1995 - 30 June 2025 (30 years)
Period: 1 January 1970 - 30 June 2025 (~56 years)
30 Years
(1995/07 - 2025/06)

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Ideal Index Talmud Portfolio
Drawdown
(%) 		Recovery
(#Months)		 From
To		 Drawdown
(%) 		Recovery
(#Months)		 From
To
-40.17 41 Jun 2007
Oct 2010
-40.11 40 Nov 2007
Feb 2011
-22.88 32 Jan 2022
Aug 2024
-18.25 27 Jan 2022
Mar 2024
-17.16 11 Jan 2020
Nov 2020
-16.33 33 Feb 2001
Oct 2003
-15.51 20 May 2011
Dec 2012
-15.16 7 Feb 2020
Aug 2020
-12.21 8 May 1998
Dec 1998
-10.50 8 Jun 2011
Jan 2012
-10.43 6 Jul 1998
Dec 1998
-9.48 8 Sep 2018
Apr 2019
-8.72 14 Jun 2015
Jul 2016
-8.26 14 Apr 2002
May 2003
-7.57 6 Sep 2018
Feb 2019

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Ideal Index Talmud Portfolio
Drawdown
(%) 		Recovery
(#Months)		 From
To		 Drawdown
(%) 		Recovery
(#Months)		 From
To
-40.17 41 Jun 2007
Oct 2010
-40.11 40 Nov 2007
Feb 2011
-27.37 30 Jan 1973
Jun 1975
-25.53 38 Dec 1972
Jan 1976
-22.88 32 Jan 2022
Aug 2024
-18.25 27 Jan 2022
Mar 2024
-17.16 11 Jan 2020
Nov 2020
-16.33 33 Feb 2001
Oct 2003
-15.93 12 Jan 1970
Dec 1970
-15.52 17 Sep 1987
Jan 1989
-15.51 20 May 2011
Dec 2012
-15.16 7 Feb 2020
Aug 2020
-14.90 14 Sep 1987
Oct 1988
-14.74 15 Jan 1990
Mar 1991
-12.21 8 May 1998
Dec 1998

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Time Period: 1 January 1970 - 30 June 2025 (~56 years)


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Yearly Returns

For each year, the following table provides the return and intra-year drawdown. The highlighted returns represent the highest values for that specific year.

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Ideal Index Talmud Portfolio
Year Return
(%)		 Drawdown
(%)		 Return
(%)		 Drawdown
(%)
2025
 6.78 -1.52 3.87 -3.70
2024
 7.60 -3.51 10.00 -4.87
2023
 12.04 -8.07 14.42 -9.16
2022
 -11.91 -18.25 -19.62 -22.88
2021
 13.98 -2.66 21.44 -3.93
2020
 6.95 -17.16 8.02 -15.16
2019
 17.96 -4.04 22.79 -1.65
2018
 -6.68 -9.48 -3.78 -7.57
2017
 13.88 -0.15 9.90 -0.80
2016
 9.05 -4.06 7.99 -4.84
2015
 -1.66 -7.44 1.11 -5.69
2014
 4.16 -3.12 16.24 -3.05
2013
 16.03 -2.21 11.22 -4.74
2012
 12.36 -6.57 12.41 -3.41
2011
 -2.98 -15.51 5.83 -10.50
2010
 13.00 -8.67 17.33 -7.24
2009
 21.58 -16.28 20.87 -18.28
2008
 -24.86 -27.96 -22.37 -28.90
2007
 5.91 -4.80 -1.40 -7.11
2006
 17.74 -2.78 18.42 -3.01
2005
 8.40 -2.89 6.88 -3.47
2004
 14.62 -3.40 15.93 -6.69
2003
 26.78 -3.93 23.46 -1.81
2002
 -7.53 -13.72 -2.82 -8.26
2001
 -3.80 -11.76 3.27 -5.08
2000
 2.04 -5.59 9.05 -4.13
1999
 13.53 -2.81 6.34 -4.64
1998
 8.85 -12.21 5.18 -10.43
1997
 12.22 -4.02 19.74 -1.89
1996
 11.54 -3.03 19.46 -1.65
1995
 16.29 -1.64 22.03 -0.94
1994
 1.99 -4.20 -3.74 -8.67
1993
 17.70 -4.41 13.33 -2.90
1992
 3.75 -3.20 10.28 -1.73
1991
 20.38 -3.65 27.78 -2.56
1990
 -9.45 -14.74 -4.26 -10.14
1989
 15.59 -2.18 16.87 -1.33
1988
 17.45 -2.71 12.71 -1.50
1987
 10.19 -14.90 0.17 -15.52
1986
 28.89 -3.91 16.28 -3.57
1985
 31.78 -1.78 24.20 -2.28
1984
 7.88 -4.89 12.71 -4.02
1983
 21.11 -2.00 19.51 -2.63
1982
 16.37 -6.90 24.41 -3.38
1981
 4.16 -7.60 3.76 -8.59
1980
 22.04 -9.55 20.13 -9.71
1979
 17.78 -7.14 21.82 -8.78
1978
 15.30 -7.53 6.65 -7.13
1977
 9.26 -1.55 6.70 -1.95
1976
 18.88 -2.99 29.26 -1.67
1975
 28.38 -9.10 21.49 -7.79
1974
 -13.41 -20.91 -14.51 -20.06
1973
 -10.09 -10.78 -9.74 -10.13
1972
 17.91 -0.27 9.45 -2.27
1971
 17.25 -5.44 10.45 -6.96
1970
 0.66 -15.93 10.08 -12.17
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